Kids these days

"Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow" (chriskf)
08/26/2016 at 08:52 • Filed to: None

Shaking my damn head.

DISCUSSION (60)

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 08:53

It begins. The zipties and machine screws are not far behind.

It has happened.

The toyobaru has become 240.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/26/2016 at 08:54

100%

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
08/26/2016 at 08:55

The Toyobaru was the 240 by the time it was released.

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:03

I think this is the most car forumy thing I've ever seen...

Tekamul > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:05

I can’t spend very much time on there because there is so much of this.

I love my car, but dislike a large portion of its community.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:06

FT86Club hosts a large number of ignorant fuckbois unwilling to actually educate themselves about their cars, who immediately become defensive if you try to give them any factual information that will help them not ruin their car and save a bit of money in the long run. I do my best to stick to the Tracking thread, that’s where most of the people who actually give a damn spend their time.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Tekamul
08/26/2016 at 09:07

Stick to the Tracking thread for the most part, that’s what I do. FS section is good too, since all the kids drift into poles and part out some okay parts from time to time.

I feel the same way.

jimz > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:10

Why would they want your “factual information?” They already know what they need to know, they just want you to tell them how to do it.

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:13

God... That sounds pretty terrible. I thought that all the conflicting information, elitism and older members stuck in the past that seems to make up most mini forums was bad, but I guess I haven't seen anything

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:15

The Tracking thread is full of the sort of people like me, who’re just interested in using the cars for what they were actually designed for, sharing that information, talking shop, and educating others. The rest of the threads are mostly full of stancenation hard parking street punks who think they’re Takumi incarnate and don’t know how to use the ‘search’ function.

jimz > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:17

part of the reason I don’t have kids is because I fear if I had a son, he’d turn into one of those twats.

jariten1781 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:18

I was this guy, cannot denigrate...pretty much everything I owned from ~16-20 was horribly mutilated by my ‘customization’. My crown jewel was dryer hose from the butterfly down into a sawzall'd hole in the fenderwell where I put an off-brand K&N filter for a ‘true CAI’ all crunched together with worm clamps. I could totally feel the power yo. In retrospect it was hilariously dumb, but probably no worse than any number of vastly more expensive filter on stick intakes.

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:21

That sounds about right; people who track their cars are generally very helpful, and know exactly what they’re talking about. Unfortunately, I’m not in a situation where taking my car out to do anything like that is easy or affordable, so I can’t really go to those threads and fit in. I’m lucky enough to know people who I can talk to for help in real life, though,as well as oppo, of course, so I rarely have to go on any forums

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > jariten1781
08/26/2016 at 09:21

I feel like most import fans were like this to some degree when they were younger, because at that point their points of exposure to the community are generally F&F, Facebook, and YouTube. It’s a matter of how open you are to actually learning from the older/educated/experienced folks that matters. Some grow out of it, many don’t.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:23

Autocross is a fairly cheap way to get out doing some quality driving stuffs. If you can’t afford to build a competitive car, just accept that you’re going out to have fun and won’t be setting any FTDs. Once you’ve been around awhile you might even be able to find someone with a competitive car that would be willing to let you co-drive with them.

OpposResidentLexusGuy - USE20, XF20, XU30 and Press Cars > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:27

My LS400 has only one hoopty modification done to it. My dad(Lexus Master Tech) and I drilled an 1" hole in the intake right before the filter. The only way you can see it is if you take off the plastic cover that routes air to the intake. When you give it a good pull it lets the intake sound out a little more on the 1UZ, part of the fantastic sounding UZ family.

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:27

Autocross is definitely something I want to do. Once I have a little more experience driving, as well as some money for good quality safety stuff, I’ll have to try looking into any places local to me

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:32

Autocross is best to do when you have less experience driving! There aren’t many ways, apart from perhaps a professional driving school, that will teach you to be a better driver faster.

No need to worry about safety stuff either, nearly every single autox organization has loaner helmets. Don’t make excuses, just go. Trust me, you’ll be happier the sooner you get out there.

My first car was an automatic ‘00 Corolla, and I kept making the excuse that it wasn’t a car worth autocrossing. Stupid excuse, that was more just me being worried that people would look at me weird for not having the right kind of car. Boy, was I wrong.

Almost everyone is incredibly helpful, and are excited to see new people (especially young folks) out there trying. Just have a bit of humility, be willing to learn, and go have fun.

jariten1781 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:33

That time in my life pre-dates the first F&F, facebook, and YouTube so I don’t have that excuse, heh. Though import tuner magazines were a thing (which I was too cheap to buy so I’d just read them at Borders).

My anecdotal experience is that everyone grows out of it. I still keep up with a good number of the guys I hung with back then and no one's lowering their cars with screw clamps or driving around with their highbeams on colored with blue sharpies to emulate HIDs anymore.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > jariten1781
08/26/2016 at 09:34

Yeah, import mags were my into to the scene as well. The 1st F&F was right around the start of that time for me.

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:36

You're really selling this to me haha. If I can find anywhere local I can get to, I might have to give it a try

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:39

I Kinja account creeped a litte, saw your Mini.

Here’s a little more motivation to get out there, from my IRL good buddy and fellow Oppo

http://oppositelock.kinja.com/i-took-the-min…

jariten1781 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:42

F&F came out at the perfect time for me. Was 20 and I was driving a Prelude which I’d ghetto modified and gotten sick of the quirks and decided to go back to stock. People screwing up their cars literally just gave me stock wheels, tires, intakes, exhausts, wiper mounts (that was an interesting one...), etc. It cost me nothing but time to get that thing back to pristine.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > jariten1781
08/26/2016 at 09:45

That’s pretty sweet. haha I was like 13 at the time. Prime age for buying into ridiculous body kits and underglow being cool. lol

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:45

Haha, that looks so much fun

Ive been running into a bit of trouble finding anywhere I could go though. British Autocross is done on dirt tracks, which I’m not ready for, and even though it looks fun in its own way, it's also not something I really want to subject my mini to. Any advice? I’m kinda stuck where to look next

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:49

Back when I was 16 I was as many speakers in my 86 Pulsar I could fit oh and under car neon with matching license plate frame I’d burn through alternators twice a year. I grew out of it.

If you're interested I had 2 12s, 2 6x9s and 4 6 inch full range. Backed up 1400 watts across 4 amps. It was loud.

jariten1781 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 09:49

Speaking of underglow...did you know they sell 20 foot strings of D-cell powered Christmas lights and that those could be attached to the bottom of a car with tape? YUP, I did that too haha.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 09:50

Hmmm... not as familiar (like at all haha) with grassroots motorsports in the UK. This seems like a good place to start learning though: https://www.msauk.org/

British Autocross, which sounds pretty damn fun, and autotest are probably your best bets for entry level motorsports fun. I’d look for an autotest event or one of the autocrosses on a grass field, as that’s probably a little more forgiving than the gravel. Easiest way to start getting into it is to just go spectate at one of the events and ask questions.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > jariten1781
08/26/2016 at 09:52

Hahahaha

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 10:06

Autotest seems pretty close to American Autocross, and there are lots of clubs that seem to host events. Thanks for all the help, I've got a lot of research to be doing, and ideally, looking for some events to attend

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 10:09

Yeah, it looks kinda of like a cross between American autocross and Japanese gymkhana, leaning more toward the latter given the utilization of handbrake turns (something that is greatly frowned upon in American autox).

Glad to hear it! I look forward to seeing your post about your first event! ;)

Laurence > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 10:14

It’s probably still a while off, but if I can get to an event, I’ll definitely post about it here.

It also seems that old minis are the go to car for pretty much all British grassroots events, so I haven't really got any excuse not to have a go

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Laurence
08/26/2016 at 10:17

Fair enough.

so I haven’t really got any excuse not to have a go

That’s what I like to hear!

sony1492 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 10:30

Its not that bad, at least hes willing to spend more than $100 and took the time to post this instead of going straight to ebay.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > sony1492
08/26/2016 at 10:31

You can get coilovers for $100???

Nope, still that bad.

sony1492 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 10:39

Your not using your imagination, Im willing to bet you can shoehorn some ebay accord springs and sleeves onto the stock shocks.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > sony1492
08/26/2016 at 10:41

Springs would be better than $300 coilovers, as someone points out above. This hard parking fuckboi wants “adjustability, and to clear wider wheels” but apparently doesn’t want dampers that are actually properly valved to match their spring rates or built with quality in mind.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
08/26/2016 at 10:49

Until the majority of examples are held together with zipties and dreams, it is not 240. 240 is a state of being. Not a birthright.

sony1492 > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 10:51

I was starting to get flustered then it occured to me; this guy should just leave, these cars are too new to be fucking up with cheap parts. And the day you can buy a running frs for $2500 is the day this guy should be allowed to do all the top notch things hes got in mind.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > sony1492
08/26/2016 at 10:53

these cars are too new to be fucking up with cheap parts.

HA! Try telling this to about 95% of the owners.

AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 12:09

You have my attention. Tell me more about the FS section?

AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 12:11

Well that’s a shame. And here I thought I’d avoid this crowd by not getting a WRX/STi. But seriously, the kid needs to add another 0 at the end of that number for anything worth putting on the car.

Decay buys too many beaters > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 12:15

Funny story... I’ve been looking at starting up a side direct import business to cater to this crowd. You would not fucking believe the actual cost on some of these parts. Ambit wheels? $40 each.Forged FA20 crankshaft? $400. Complete turbo kit? $300. Coils? $100 easy. I could go on

Decay buys too many beaters > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 12:20

Come join us in the Northwest section. We have adequate banter.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Decay buys too many beaters
08/26/2016 at 13:10

Not surprised at all.

DocWalt > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 13:10

I’ll be selling some parts that haven’t been drifted into poles... but you already have pretty much anything you’d want off of my car anyway :(

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > DocWalt
08/26/2016 at 13:11

I’m actually selling a lot of my parts, converting back to a CS prep.

DocWalt > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 13:13

Ah, understandable (less hassle, cheaper, etc etc)... I couldn’t stand to daily the car with the OEM tune and adding the header completely transformed the car... so I went right to STX, lol.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > DocWalt
08/26/2016 at 13:30

Cheaper is the main thing. Life events coming up necessitate me putting more money into my savings account. I want to keep doing motorsports stuff and would like a competitive build, and selling my coilovers, LCAs, header, and two extra RPF1s should easily cover a full CS prep with TRD parts.

I honestly don’t mind the OEM tune that much.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC
08/26/2016 at 13:31

Just keep an eye on those threads, pretty good deals pop up from time to time. Just about every part I’ve put on my car (apart from the Watanabes and coilovers) has been used.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Decay buys too many beaters
08/26/2016 at 13:31

I wish the Great Lakes thread had more chatter. It looks to be one of the most dead of the regional threads.

Decay buys too many beaters > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 13:44

You’re not kidding, just went over a few pages of your off-topic thread... snooze

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Decay buys too many beaters
08/26/2016 at 13:45

I haven’t even been into that part. haha I spend 70% of my time in the track section, 20% in classifieds, and 10% in suspension.

Decay buys too many beaters > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 13:50

Funny, I spend probably 10% (or less) of my time in track (too much CSG dickriding for me), 30% in classifieds, 30% in Local, 30% in tuning, and 10% in DIY

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Decay buys too many beaters
08/26/2016 at 13:51

True about the CSG stuff, although I have had good interactions with them so far. Bought my PMU Club Racers from them.

Decay buys too many beaters > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 13:56

They are a solid business that I will continue to patronize. That said, they (they, being their forum presence) are not nearly as knowledgeable as they claim to be and it seems taboo to question them on the forums. There is this weird overzealous belief that absolutely everything that comes from CSG is the gospel truth and people actually get angry when you call them out on being incorrect.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > Decay buys too many beaters
08/26/2016 at 14:13

Yeah, you get that same thing with RCE on there too.

DocWalt > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 14:29

I didn’t either until I did the header. It was always falling on its face right as I was shifting for DD usage. When I could wind it out (like a twisty back road) it was perfectly fine.

Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow > DocWalt
08/26/2016 at 14:36

Yeah, I’m sure I’d love the added power and flattened out torque curve if I actually installed my header. I just don’t want to spend another ~$900 on an EcuTek license, cable, dongle, and custom tune to install it. haha

Maybe someday... In the meantime, if you know anyone looking for a thermal coated JDL EL catted header...

DocWalt > Chris_K_F drives an FR-Slow
08/26/2016 at 15:21

Yeah, I did the OFT and spent a lot of time tweaking their UEL tune for my car. Got a bit more power and what-not.

Everyone I know wants UEL or already bought the ACE EL, lol